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    Rob RyanMar 28, 2018 at 7:16 pm

    Paul Keene and Tom LeBleu: I’d give you each “One like” but I can’t find the thumb button.

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      scott WestOct 1, 2020 at 6:59 pm

      Ditto to Rob’s remark. Censure does not belong in a university. At least 50% of Americans, and probably quite a bit more, are tired of being told what we can read, think and hear. Regardless of who says it.

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    Bill KriegerMar 28, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    I’m very happy to see that Trinity presents people with a diversity of political viewpoints: left, right and center.
    So, something or someone that doesn’t agree with his Craig Mills’ viewpoint should be censored?!? I don’t think so. Maybe at NYU, but not at Trinity.
    Good job, Trinity U. Keep it up! Thanks, Bill

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    Paul KeeneMar 24, 2018 at 10:04 am

    Craig,

    I presume that if Bill Clinton were an alumnus of Trinity, you would be angry at Trinity for promoting it.

    You listed 5 bad traits that Trump possesses, and I think you are right on most of these. But Clinton possessed 3 of 5, based upon the Lewinsky case and others.

    I think it’s a slippery slope when we get to Tell Trinity which successful alumni they are allowed to promote. Just because I don’t agree with an Alumnus’ views doesn’t mean that others cannot.

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      Craig MillsMar 24, 2018 at 11:19 am

      Paul,

      The article is not about Bill Clinton or a Trinity alumnus who worked for Bill Clinton. It is about Trinity promoting Brad Parscale. Write an article about Bill Clinton if you want a discussion on him.

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        Paul KeeneMar 24, 2018 at 11:36 am

        Craig, your article proposed limiting which alumni Trinity should be allowed to promote— or limiting speech you disagree with. My response just pointed out the inherent challenges of speech limitations. When your speech code excludes half of our last four presidents, it makes me question your code.

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          Craig MillsMar 24, 2018 at 11:51 am

          Paul,

          “Question my code?” What does that even mean? This isn’t about the last four presidents, this is about Brad Parscale; what did you not understand about that?

          If you support hate speech, racism, sexism, and xenophobia, that’s your prerogative. I don’t, and I’m allowed to say so. I am allowed also to voice my displeasure with the administration for promoting such a person. If you’re committed to promoting free speech, you should know that free speech does not make one immune to being criticized for acting on it.

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            Paul KeeneMar 24, 2018 at 1:18 pm

            Craig,

            I was referring to your proposed speech code.

            You have countered my defense of free speech by calling me a racist. If you knew me, you would know that that is ridiculous, just as it would be silly to call the Trinity administration racist.

            I’m sure you are a good person with a strong set of values, and I fully support your right to speak out against Brad. But I don’t support your appeal to authority at Trinity to restrict their speech.

            Paul

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            Craig MillsMar 24, 2018 at 3:00 pm

            Paul,

            Good to know that you think my concerns about someone who promotes hate and racist speech and lies are silly. The government is not permitted to preclude someone from speech; it does not work the same way at private organizations. Such organizations impose their own limitations, as they are permitted. Communities promote and uphold standards, and no one gets to say absolutely anything they want. If so, why did CPAC prevent Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking last year and escort Mona Charen out this year if it is a “free speech absolutist” organization? Would you approve of Trinity letting someone make a video about killing police, discussing their favorite sexual positions in graphic detail, or even making pornography? Trinity makes conscious decisions about what it promotes and allows individuals to say under its auspices.

            Trinity’s decision to promote Parscale, whose actions are counter to Trinity’s mission and values, is an implicit message that it approves of his speech and his actions. I interpret his actions as racist and unethical. If you think that’s ridiculous or silly (your words), you and I will probably not agree on much.

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            Paul KeeneMar 24, 2018 at 4:08 pm

            Craig, great discussion! I’m not arguing as a free speech absolutist, and these are difficult and important issues.

            Where do we draw the line? Not sure we will solve that here, but I hope Trinity will continue to acknowledge successful alumni from both parties, even though we will disagree with candidate positions.

            My original post was meant to show that your proposal gets messy, with prominent politicians like Bill Clinton and the late Ted Kennedy failing the 5-part test you put Trump to. Even Obama ran in 2008 against gay marriage which I thought was unfortunate. But I would never accuse those who supported Obama as being homophobic, and I would certainly have been proud if a TU alum ran Obama’s campaign.

            Paul

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            Craig MillsMar 24, 2018 at 6:58 pm

            Paul,

            Of course it gets messy; that’s life, we grapple with decisions, and we pay the consequences for our choices. The issue I have with what you’re advocating is you want to apply a universal standard to everyone that does exist. If it did, Trump would not have been elected to begin with. Imagine Obama bragging about his penis during a nationally televised debate and winning office. Imagine 19 women accusing Obama of sexual assault before the election and him getting elected. Imagine him being caught on an audio tape bragging about sexual assault on women before the election and winning. This doesn’t even address the racist and xenophobic statements. Parscale supported this and provided messaging for tweets and tweeted on Trump’s behalf during the campaign. NONE of this deals with politics or policy decisions–none of it. Trinity made a decision to promote a man who was comfortable enough to overlook these and many, many other Trump transgressions before and since the election that have nothing to do with politics.

            During a debate in 2008, George Stephanopoulos let a pre-selected voter ask Obama why he didn’t wear a U.S. flag pin on his lapel. Then, Obama had to address a pastor’s words, not his own. (Speaking of free speech, imagine a Jeremiah Wright video on Trinity’s page.) Do you see the difference?

            My argument has been over Parscale’s ethics, not his politics, and Trinity promoting them as a presumptive byproduct of attending. As I asked in my article, read Trinity’s mission and values statements and tell me where Trinity saw the qualities in those statements in Parscale.

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    Craig MilsMar 23, 2018 at 11:17 am

    Tom—
    “I don’t know Brad Parscale from Adam, but by any measure what he has accomplished as a professional is important, relevant, and effective and it was done at the highest level on the biggest stage.”

    I didn’t mention any “Adam“ in my article. True, what Parscale accomplished is important, relevant, and effective, because it will probably have an effect on regulations around how we use and access information on the Internet and use it in future campaigns, but that’s not why Trinity highlighted him.

    You seem to be the one in capable of separating the politics from the individual. If Obama had Trump’s behavioral characteristics and ethics and Parscale worked for him, I would write the same thing.

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    Tom LeBleuMar 23, 2018 at 10:15 am

    Craig — I am not sure what was ironic either in or with respect to my comments. I note that while you stand by your article you don’t really bother to refute any specific issues I raised.

    I don’t know Brad Parscale from Adam, but by any measure what he has accomplished as a professional is important, relevant, and effective and it was done at the highest level on the biggest stage. That you and others don’t agree with his politics doesn’t diminish this unless, as I noted, he did so illegally. Had he done this as part of the Obama team in 2012 I imagine you and others would be highlighting his accomplishments and singing his praises. It is absolutely appropriate for TU to highlight what he did.

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    James LusterMar 22, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    Craig is exactly the reason why Trump got elected. This HATEFUL, moronic, OPINION piece is absolute garbage. Here’s to four more years of Trump and four more years of Craig crying.

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    Tom SpencerMar 22, 2018 at 7:45 pm

    I agree completely. Of course the greatest irony is that he claims to have taken the Liberal Arts core but he apparently took one year of major classes in a technical field so he lies in the video about his experience at TU in a very basic way.

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    Leila Zazueta, LMSWMar 22, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    Amen, brother. It’s highly offensive to those of us actually working to embody the Trinity standard. A slap in the face for hardworking, honest, ethical people trying to unite instead of divide. Thank you for educating me on what it transpiring at our Alma Mater. Please tag me in any other info you find out.

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    Danielle Duran '93Mar 22, 2018 at 2:55 pm

    Thanks to Craig for providing a moral compass on this issue. Trinity – most of your alums think you are wrong on this one, not because we disagree with his politics but because he lacks integrity.

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      James LusterMar 22, 2018 at 8:48 pm

      “most of your alumns” Thaaaats called fake news. Heading over to make an additional donation now to Trinity to prove you wrong.

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    Tom LeBleu, Class of '90Mar 22, 2018 at 10:09 am

    What’s shameful is the paucity of logic and factual support in this article. By all measures, Brad Parscale has achieved a significant level of professional success which should be promoted by Trinity as with all highly visible and successful alumni.

    The one factual assertion you make, that Trump’s campaign was the “first digitally driven presidential campaign” is further clarified in the next sentence where he backs this statement by saying “it was the first time in history that web marketing was half of the budget”. This may be false, I am not sure what proportion of budget was spent by Obama in 2012, but by virtue of this clarification I would say to call this an “absurdly verifiable lie” is quite a stretch. Parscale’s claim was more that the proportion of spending and reliance on web marketing was historically high, not that it had never been done successfully.
    The remainder of your article is almost entirely political, despite the ironic lead-in to said details of “political opinions aside”. You have smeared Parscale by implying that his success was through “questionable, possibly illicit tactics” with no proof. If you have evidence that Cambridge Analytics engaged in “data theft” and “privacy violations” that extended beyond the parameters of the platform that was offered by Facebook at the time, please provide the details, or this claim is questionable as well… what one might term “false information” unless it is backed by evidence which will presumably emerge in a criminal or civil action of sorts. You have claimed as fact, as if it is common knowledge shared by all voters and citizens, that Trump does things like “fosters xenophobia, sexism, and racism” when this is a highly partisan opinion. Other rhetorical leaps, such as the fact that Papadopolous, Manafort, and Flynn were indicted somehow refutes Trump’s claims that they played a minimal role in his campaign, are nonsensical (could Papadopolous have been indicted AND played a minimal part)?

    The circuitous drift over to the 4000 anonymous Penn alumni is a very weak appeal to authority at best, and not surprising given how uniformly liberal Ivy League institutions have become.

    These are just a few examples of poor logic and superficial argumentation — not what I would think would be the standard for a Trinity graduate although it may meet the academic standard at Penn or NYU since the political opinions there are likely to align with the author’s opinion and will not presumably be forcefully rebutted.

    What is most disconcerting about this piece is that you are trying to set a precedent by claiming that if an alumni achieves success that is not in line with your political beliefs that not only should be success be denigrated but the individual in question is lacking in “integrity” and is, in your opinion, an morally reprehensible individual. If evidence comes out that Brad and team somehow broke the law and they are convicted for it — something stronger than the insinuation of “possibly illicit” tactics, then I will willingly join you in your opinion of Brad. Until then, we should recognize and celebrate a fellow alumnus who has indisputably achieved a very high measure of success as a professional.

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      A.J. D'AmbraMar 22, 2018 at 11:41 am

      Perhaps Craig’s primary error, with respect to your rebuttal, is his assuming that his readers would be sufficiently informed by recent media accounts, i.e. the evidence that you persistently claim is lacking, of the events he cites in his piece, that it would have been unnecessary to consume his limited space to spell it all out for your benefit.
      — A.J. D’Ambra (’85)

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        Trent WorthamMar 22, 2018 at 1:12 pm

        I mean Craig calls Brad a liar and person that supports voter suppression, Tom notes calling him a liar is disingenuous and the only evidence supporting voter suppression is this quote from a cited article:
        ‘In the words of an unnamed senior official quoted by Bloomberg, they’re running “three major voter suppression operations,” aimed at lowering turnout among liberals, young women, and black voters.

        The tactics of those initiatives include sharing Hillary Clinton’s 1996 “super predator” comments with black voters via Facebook, and sending residents of Miami’s Little Haiti neighborhood critical messaging about the Clinton Foundation’s efforts in Haiti. According to the same official, such tactics “will dramatically affect [Clinton’s] ability to turn these people out.”

        If you think that is voter suppression, then there are going to be a lot of people that shouldn’t be highlighted by the school.

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      Craig MillsMar 22, 2018 at 12:06 pm

      Interesting that you don’t see the irony in your long-winded “takedown” of my intellect and beliefs because they don’t align with yours. I got a good chuckle, but I stand behind everything I wrote.

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        James LusterMar 22, 2018 at 8:44 pm

        You stand behind name calling. That’s nice. What do you suppose Trinity do? Fire Danny Anderson? For sharing the success of Trinity alumni simply because of some garbage you believe? Give me a break. Go join Hillary in her cell.

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      James LusterMar 22, 2018 at 8:42 pm

      THANK YOU! Craig is clearly so far left he doesn’t know how to make a right turn. He’s too busy calling trump and his supporters stupid, racists and idiots. Enjoy the Trump Presidency Craig. You are the reason he will continue to win. I’m not a racist.

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    Denise BoehmMar 22, 2018 at 8:36 am

    I called the alumni office and received an email declaring the value of a Trinity education included listening to all sides. Also that Trinity received complaints from conservatives when Ezra Klein, Bernie, and other progressives came to campus. The issue for me was Parscale”s interest in voter suppression, which is antithetical to the values of our country. That point was lost/ignored in the response I received. I don’t need a reminder that one must be open to different political opinions. Trinity, unfortunately, needs to be reminded that subverting democracy is not a value to celebrate, no matter the political afffiliation of the perpetrator, no matter however cleverly done.

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    Marcella GlassMar 22, 2018 at 8:25 am

    Thank you for this well written and well reasoned piece. Articles like this lift up the reasons I am proud to be a Trinity alum. Intelligence. Integrity. Courage.

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    Andrea HallMar 22, 2018 at 8:03 am

    Thank you for this well reasoned article and for highlighting the difference between diversity of opinion and integrity. The promotion of Parscale had me questioning the university’s judgement, but you’ve articulated it far better than I.

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    Elwood R. ThompsonMar 22, 2018 at 8:00 am

    Thank you, Craig. As a chair of the 2008 Iowa Obama for American Campaign, and as an Elector, I appreciate your pointing out the fact that we ran the first digitally driven campaign. We worked to enhance voter turnout, and did so in a successful, proactive manner. Elwood R. Thompson, Trinity University Class of 1985 and 1988.

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    spring leeMar 22, 2018 at 7:55 am

    Craig, I COMPLETELY agree with you. THANK you for addressing this issue… hopefully we will hear more than CRICKETS from TU administration on this. I certainly believe we are owed an explanation.

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      James LusterMar 22, 2018 at 8:46 pm

      There will be hell to pay if the administration doesn’t continue to allow ALL viewpoints. AMERICA VOTED. STOP BEING A SORE LOSER

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        SpringMar 23, 2018 at 9:14 pm

        Hmmm. Electoral college and Russian intervention gave tRUMP the “win” – More Americans voted for Hillary Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history. 2.9 million more Americans thought America was already great!

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    PL ParmerMar 22, 2018 at 7:51 am

    I agree. Trinity still has the post up on its Facebook page. It should be removed. Trinity through the years has worked hard to increase diversity and an open exchange of ideas; promoting Parscale–a man who has worked against these ideals–diminishes its accomplishments in these areas.

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    Gregory TasianMar 22, 2018 at 6:48 am

    I agree completely. I am also a Trinity and Penn alumnus and current Penn faculty member. The difference between embracing and rejecting those who propagate lies, create division, and invite hatred is stark. I would have expected better of Trinity.

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