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    AlumFeb 8, 2013 at 1:23 am

    If anyone who is disappointed about the reduced punishments can comment and say what the spurs or lancers did wrong that deserved being kicked off campus please do. Also if you can admit that you have always been perfect please do. If you can admit that you’ve never consumed alcohol as a minor or with a minor please do. If you think the school has released the whole truth, I challenge you to walk up to a spur or a lancer and ask for their side. Something tells me that you won’t. If you think that is pointless, I can only hope I come across you one day and hear your side of the story. In the meantime, God bless.

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      To AlumFeb 11, 2013 at 11:37 am

      Did the Spurs and Lancers get kicked off because they had members who consumed alcohol as a minor or with a minor? If so, they got kicked off campus because they weren’t sneaky enough to not get caught.

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    AnonymousFeb 4, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    I’m sorry, but the POINT of the comments section is for opinions… so, Katie, thank you for sharing yours! I’m sorry you’ve been attacked for your opinions that you shared very respectfully without compromising your thoughts in your original post.

    I would also like to point out that the day the Trinitonian published the original allegations against Gamma Chi Delta, members of this sorority began running around campus and collecting the issue to be destroyed…. so maybe we can trust what we read in the Trinitonian….

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      Chelsea, GXD alumna, TU class of 1993Feb 12, 2013 at 7:21 pm

      I would respectfully like to point out that The Trinitonian printed the original allegations without interviewing a single member of Gamma Chi Delta for a response. When I was an editor at The Trinitonian, we would never have printed such a biased, unbalanced article. Clearly those journalistic standards no longer apply.

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    GraceFeb 4, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    I’m glad I’m not the only one that’s pissed off that the punishments were reduced! I am also not surprised that this happened- the Trinity administration will bend over backwards to keep the money that the alumni pulled when their organizations were kicked off. Unfortunately, it looks like the rest of the Trinity students will have to suffer the negative image that these organizations and their alumni have forced upon us.

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    Sara CBFeb 3, 2013 at 9:31 am

    As a past president ’81 of an organization and could be a parent of the students today. It is easy to see the students hide behind these comments being able to slam others without any consequences or facts. We as a society need to stop and think before we condemn others or organizations in writing without thinking or knowing the facts. Let’s let the review committee do its job now and leave our comments to ourselves. We obviously only have opinions and yours don’t really matter to me and mine don’t really matter to you other than to irritate you. This is going to be the downfall of our society with this generation. Just be sure when commenting that pride cometh before a fall. So be careful being so pure.

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    BenFeb 2, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    President Ahlberg said in an email dated 05/03/2012, “As a result of the appeals process, suspensions of the Bengal Lancers, Chi Delta Tau, Gamma Chi Delta, and the Spurs will remain in effect, but can be reduced if the organizations develop an acceptable plan that ensures the incidents do not recur.”

    Suspensions that were handed out were never absolute so props to CCI and the administration for keeping their word.

    Did any students outside these organizations really miss their existence though? What can these organizations provide that existing Greek organizations don’t?

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      Trinity AlumFeb 5, 2013 at 3:37 pm

      Trust me Ben, the answer to your question, “What can these organizations provide that existing Greek organizations don’t?” is: a lot.

      One fraternity is not every fraternity, & one sorority is not every sorority. If all people just wanted to be greek & didn’t care what group they were in, then why wouldn’t we all just be in one big group?

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        BenFeb 5, 2013 at 7:50 pm

        They aren’t in one big group because fraternities and sororities are not a one size fits all group. However, once you’re a part of one, the things that you get and give appear to be similar. The bonds between members of one organization are just as strong as another and philanthropic efforts by one organization are just as beneficial as another organization’s.

        The absence of some organizations may mean that someone is not able to identify with existing organizations. However, that is not so tragic. One usually finds another niche outside of Greek life and truly enjoy their time at Trinity. Regardless of whether they choose to be independent or Greek, the quality of education at Trinity should trump the fact that they are missing a couple of sororities and fraternities. There are plenty of other opportunities for service and building long-lasting friendships.

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    Caydee KDFeb 2, 2013 at 11:12 am

    YOLO

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    trinFeb 2, 2013 at 3:41 am

    Katie, you obviously don’t know what happened. Don’t believe everything you read from the “Trinitonian.”

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      KatieFeb 2, 2013 at 7:37 am

      I definitely know what information was relayed to the Trinity community via campus officials, press, and formal announcements and addresses. That’s the information we all know. Those are the official charges. I apologize if it upsets you or “makes you look bad” but this is the bed you lie in. If I “can’t believe everything I read from the Trinitonian” then I certainly can’t believe anything I hear from the culprits. The defensive, entitled collective attitude of these suspended Greeks should make anyone skeptical. It’s just how it is. I’m sorry these people don’t get to continue building and cherishing their clubs as official Greek organizations, but I’m not sorry that they’re on the chopping block for the reckless and embarrassing nature of their orientation processes.

      Don’t bully people because your’e angry. You shouldn’t bully anybody who thinks you deserve what got served to you. Not the way you’ve bullied CCI. It doesn’t help your case.

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        To KatieFeb 3, 2013 at 3:43 pm

        Hey Katie you weren’t there when these alleged events happened so honestly shut your mouth. Your ignorant and talking about things you have no idea about.

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          To IgnoramusFeb 3, 2013 at 6:55 pm

          It’s worse to be ignorant about the difference between your and you’re.

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            To KatieFeb 8, 2013 at 1:18 pm

            So you just want to correct grammar my 3.7 GPA doesnt really care about that diffference….anways back to what I actually said, maybe you should respond to that.

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      twerkerFeb 2, 2013 at 11:25 pm

      girl, you look cute in that picture

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    Khuong NguyenFeb 2, 2013 at 2:50 am

    Katie, you seem to be extremely knowledgeable as to why the groups were ostracized from Trinity’s campus. Would you please enlighten us with facts from what actually happened? Everything has been mixed up and I’m not sure who to really believe anymore. If you could provide credible sources, that’d be great.. We who have been kept in the dark would like to be enlightened.

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      AaronFeb 2, 2013 at 7:23 am

      Sexual misconduct, alcohol violations, hazing, lack of respect for the community, lewd conduct.

      A letter detailing Gamma Chi Delta sorority’s new member orientation activities that violated Trinity University policy was obtained by the Trinitonian on April 11. The letter reports that the club was investigated for several orientation activities that involved serving alcohol to new active members as well as placing them in sexually suggestive situations.

      The reasons for the severity of the sanction handed down to Gamma Chi Delta were also outlined in the letter:

      “This sanction is based on the violation of Trinity University policies as well as the following factors: 1. Severity and breadth of the violations of policy, including pervasive use of alcohol, sexually based intimidation, and disrespect. 2. Systematic and sustained violations and a culture that perpetuated hazing for a period of at least four years, quite likely longer. 3. Falsification of calendar information which revealed that the orientation process, when suspended, was planned to extend beyond the approved time. 4. Withholding of information about events and a lack of cooperation and disclosure in the investigation that has resulted in an acute lack of trust and diminished credibility.”

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    KatieFeb 1, 2013 at 6:30 pm

    I’ve been following this “case” since it’s come up. I just want to express that I think it’s reckless, weak, and totally irresponsible of Trinity’s CCI to even consider letting these organizations back on campus before their suspension was intended to be over. There was no point for a “town hall meeting” and there was no purpose in President Ahlburg emotionally shouting at these organizations for why they were kicked off campus. That was all theatrics. What’s the point of having rules & protective measures, really? The unfounded sense of entitlement these particular organizations seem to sport is kind of insulting to the rest of the student body, or at least it should be. Instead of throwing a mass tantrum and running back to the big boss with a feigned “We’ve seen the light and we’ve changed” attitude – perhaps these organizations should have been smarter with their orientation process to begin with.

    CCI, by letting this slink through your system, you are letting the entire student body (and their parents) know that if you get enough people to cry and stamp their feet, you’ll cave in and bend the rules. Then everybody will know that the rules are malleable, and parents won’t feel like the safety and dignity of their kids are valued or protected. If this is the forecast for how Trinity is going to handle serious situations, I wouldn’t exactly see this as a school that takes rules, regulations, and restrictions very seriously and I would be deeply embarrassed to say that I ever had faith in these campus leaders (Briana McGlamory, Michael Fischer, David Tuttle, etc.).

    I know plenty of organizations who DO toe the line, or at least try to manage their organizations with reverence to the rules and acknowledge the fact that they exist. I express my opinion to you with the utmost concern and sincerity, and I know I am not alone in my point of view.

    Happy Bid Day.

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      Trinity AlumFeb 2, 2013 at 1:03 pm

      Katie:

      You seem really sad and bitter.

      Your sloppy semantics, sweeping generalizations and judgmental tone make it clear that you are the mean girl, the bully, the ugly watcher wishing the worst for everyone. Shame on you.

      In addition, your grammar and punctuation would make a third grader blush with embarrassment.

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        KatieFeb 2, 2013 at 1:36 pm

        Ah, my fragile heart! You broke it.

        Your defensive, entitled attitude is the exact one I was talking about earlier, so thanks for showing yourself. You did all the work for me. The fact that you resort to schoolyard insults and ad hominem low-blows speaks volumes. You’re the kind of people the school’s dealing with. I am not going to be bullied by anybody just because my opinion hurts their feelings and they can’t handle themselves. It’s cool if you pick on my grammar and my overwhelming air of ‘bitterness’ – I’m not terribly worried. It’s just kind of cringeworthy that of all the things you could have said about the issue at hand, you decided to go for my head as target practice. Good one.

        I certainly don’t wish the worst for everyone. I had a wonderful 4 years at Trinity and wouldn’t have traded them for anything. I only wish for justice to be served where it is due. In this case, I feel it’s due.

        Everybody’s got an opinion. That was mine. Deal with it. Or, you know… don’t.

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    URNFFeb 1, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Do y’all have editors?

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    scottFeb 1, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Khuong, I believe we’re all wondering the same thing. Was there a “double-secret” suspension of a fifth organization just now coming to light?

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    Khuong NguyenFeb 1, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    May I inquire as to who “Delta Chi Rho” is?

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      GradFeb 1, 2013 at 6:04 pm

      I believe they mean Chi Delta Tau.

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      Matt KafouryFeb 1, 2013 at 6:22 pm

      Heh, odd. I’ve corrected it.

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